37 Year Old Fails 3 Clomid Cycles & 2 IUI's: What Should She Do Next?

Question:

Dear Dr. Ramirez: thank you for your great service!

I just turned 37 years old and have been ttc for 1 year already. My cycles all my life have been like clockwork (ovulating on day 13 in a 26day cycle). After charting and some blood tests during the early months of ttc, I realized I had low progesterone. I was put on suppositories and after another 6 months of no success, I was put on 50mg Clomid. That's when my cycle was completely thrown off. On Clomid cycle #1, I ovulated on day 19 (much later than normal), on Clomid cycle #2, I ovulated on day 14. Both cycles were followed by unsuccessful IUIs (intra uterine inseminations). On Clomid cycle #3, I ovulated on day 11, so we missed it and didn't do IUI. On cycle #4, I ovulated on day 10 and I did two back-to back IUI (again unsuccessful). My lining is fine, there are no cysts and all my blood work on all hormone levels is good within healthy normal levels. In fact my hormone levels were normal when I tested during my natural cycle before taking Clomid. Only progesterone was low and the suppositories didn't provide enough (day 21 showed 12 only), so 2 months ago I was put on PIO and that works like magic (level was 33 and 36 on day 21).

I read in on your blog that women who ovulate on their own shouldn't take clomid, which may REDUCE their chances of getting pregnant. Did we undertake the wrong treatment? Again, until I started clomid, you could set your watch by my cycle and I could check my ovulation using the monitor. After taking Clomid, my monitor cannot register any hormone changes and peak ovulation anymore. I was told that given my age the next thing to do is move to a more aggressive treatment (injectables), but if I was so regular and ovulating on my own, why do i need the injectables?

The fertility center never did an ultrasound to see how mature my follicles are during my natural cycle (they did this only when I was on Clomid), so my inclination is to get off clomid and try a natural cycle for a few more months again and ask them to see if my follicles are large enough. Would you think that's wise or shall I move to more aggressive treatments? My husband's sperm count varies from 25mil to 100mil during the IUI cycles. He also had average motility of 90%. Semen analysis also indicated 80% morphology.

Thank you kindly for any advice you may be able to offer. L. R. from Lancaster, PA

Answer:

Hello L. from the U.S. (Pennsylvania),

The main problem, and only problem that you have identified, is your age. I call this the age related egg factor. This means that the eggs have aged and have decreased in quality and viability. A study was done to look at embryos created at 37 years old and did genetic testing on those embryos and found that only 20% were normal, a reflection of egg quality. So that is the hill that you are trying to overcome.

In this case, the use of fertility medications is to achieve "superovulation" not ovulation. The main use of Clomid is to induce ovulation in women that are not ovulating but in older women, the goal is to increase the number of eggs that you ovulate to increase the chances that you will ovulate a good egg. In my patients over 35, my goal is to get them to ovulate 3-5 eggs per cycle. In my blog what I am referring to is the tendency for general docs (family practice and Ob/Gyn's) who automatically place an infertility patient on Clomid without finding out the root cause of their infertility, as if Clomid were some magic drug. They are misusing the medication.

In your case, because you stated that you are at a fertility center, I presume that you have undergone an infertility evaluation and nothing was found except for your age, so superovulation would be a reasonable first step. I also don't recommend consecutive Clomid cycles because Clomid works by blocking estrogen receptors and too much Clomid with block the estrogen receptors that are necessary for fertility, such as tubal motility, endometrial lining development and cervical mucous production. In that case repetitive Clomid cycles can lead to infertility by blocking these receptors.

Because of your age, I do believe that you need to pursue an aggressive treatment plan. I usually do not recommend more than 4 IUI cycles as part of an aggressive treatment plan because studies have shown that most patients will get pregnant within four attempts and pregnancy rates decrease dramatically after four. Keep in mind that at your age, your pregnancy rate per IUI cycle is only 12%. But if you want to continue to try IUI, then it is reasonable to try with injectables, although these meds are a lot more expensive, for two more carefully monitored and timed cycles. Then if that is not successful, I would strongly encourage you to proceed to IVF.

By carefully monitoring, I mean that ultrasound screening should begin at cycle day #9 the proceed from there depending on the size of the follicles. The closer you get to ovulatory size, the more frequent the ultrasounds will be. HCG should be given to trigger the ovulation. IUI's should be done at 24 and 48 hrs after the HCG trigger and then the progesterone is started the day following the second IUI and continued until the bHCG. Progesterone should be given as a vaginal suppository 2-3 times per day depending on the formulation.


Good Luck and thank you for reading my blog!

Dr. Edward J. Ramirez, M.D., FACOG
Executive Medical Director
The Fertility and Gynecology Center
Monterey Bay IVF Program
http://www.montereybayivf.com/
Monterey, California, U.S.A.

Inadequate Luteal Phase Support In IVF Cycle Can Cause Bleeding & Failure

Hello Dr. Edward,

Thank you in advance for your answer! I'm from Paraguay. I just went through my second IVF-ICSI and both times I started bleeding 7-8 days after day 3 transfer, just when implantation should be occurring. Do I have an implantation problem? Are there any tests I should do? What should be done to prevent this early bleeding? I'll appreciate your expert opinion on this!

Here are the details of the case:

He: 38, had testicular cancer 6 years ago (unilateral orchiectomy and radiotherapy), very low count, morphology and motility. Now healthy, treated autoinmune hypothyroidism, BMI 26.

She: 34, no known fertility concerns, healthy, BMI 27.

Went directly for IVF-ICSI due to male factor.1st IVF/ICSI: 12 eggs, 6 fertilized, 3 transfered (day 3, 2x 8 cell + 1x 7 cell, fair quality), none to freeze. Long agonist protocol: suppressed with BCP + Lupron, stimulated with Menopur + Puregon, triggered with HCG, after ER Dostinex (8 days), anti-inflammatories and antibiotics (3 days), luteal support with Prometrium. Early bleeding 8dp3dt: BFN.2nd IVF/ICSI: 14 eggs, 8 fertilized, 3 transferred (day 3, 1x 9 cell + 1x 8 cell + 1x 7 cell, good quality), 4 frozen. Same protocol, added Estrace and more Prometrium for luteal support. Early bleeding 7dp3dt: BFN. Thank you!

Answer:

Hello E. from Paraguay,

Thanks for the information. You don't mention how much Prometrium you used in your cycles but I think that may be the problem. I think you may have inadequate luteal phase support i.e not enough progesterone. Certainly prometrium should be adequate to cover the luteal phase, and many studies have shown that vaginal progesterone only is adequate, but the dosage has to be adequate as well. I think the minimum used should be 100mg three times per day. In my practice, because I don't want patients to not get pregnant or lose a pregnancy because of inadequate progesterone, I use both injectable progesterone 50mg per day and vaginal progesterone (I use Endometrin) 100 mg per day. That is what I would recommend for you. You should not be having bleeding that soon after embryo transfer.

Protocols and technique are what distinguishes IVF centers and their respective pregnancy rates. So, that is what you need to carefully evaluate.

Good Luck,

Dr. Edward J. Ramirez, M.D., FACOG
Executive Medical Director
The Fertility and Gynecology Center
Monterey Bay IVF Program
www.montereybayivf.com
Monterey, California, U.S.A.

Young Canadian With Endometriosis: Will Have Six Month Window For TTC Post Surgery

Question:

Hi, I’m from Calgary, Alberta in Canada. I am 33 and my husband is 30, we are both healthy and we’ve been TTC unsuccessfully for 19 cycles. I have never been pregnant. We have been tested at the fertility clinic and told that there is no obvious reason why we shouldn't’t be able to conceive. I had blood work to check my hormone levels, an ultrasound to check my follicles and an HSG to make sure my tubes were open, my husband had a SA done and it showed good numbers and motility. He does have some antibodies, but less than 50%.

All that being said, I contracted chlamydia about 14 years ago, but it was treated quickly (I believe within 1-2 months). I have also been experiencing some symptoms of endo since going off the BC pill so I am a candidate for the laparoscopic surgery. The doctor said I could also try clomid or clomid with assisted insemination. I’m looking for additional guidance on how to proceed. Given that I have symptoms of endo, would you recommend that I proceed with the surgery before trying clomid or even IVF?

Thanks. J. from Canada

Answer:

Hello J from Canada,

You pose an interesting question and the answer will be based on personal desires.

Given that your infertility evaluation has been negative thus far, and you are only 33 years old, if you want to attempt pregnancy by natural means (intercourse or IUI), then you should proceed with the laparoscopy. This is the only method that can diagnose endometriosis. It can be treated at the time surgically and then followed with a 3 month course of medication (Lupron depot) to eradicate any microscopic endometriosis. You will then be free to try on your own or with IUI for the next six months. That is the window of opportunity. If the laparoscopy shows that the endometriosis is stage 3 or 4, then IVF would be indicated.

Certainly if you decide to proceed with trying by natural mean after the laparoscopy, I would recommend an aggressive treatment plan because you need to try to get pregnant within six months. After six months there is a high chance that the endometriosis will return and you will be back to square one. By aggressive natural means, I mean ovulation induction with Clomid, Femara or injectables and either timed intercourse or IUI.

If you don't want to do the laparoscopy, then the best option would be to proceed with IVF. That is the decision that my wife and I made when we faced a similar point in our infertility evaluation and treatment. This is because IVF will bypass any endometriosis and you won't have to undertake the pain or risks of surgery. But, it is the most expensive way to go.

Good Luck,

Edward J. Ramirez, M.D., FACOG

Executive Medical Director

The Fertility and Gynecology Center

Monterey Bay IVF Program

www.montereybayivf.com

Monterey, California, U.S.A.

UK Patient Has PCOS, On Clomid For Ovulation: After First Miscarriage, Should She Continue With Clomid Or Start Injectables?

QUESTION:

I was put on 50mg Clomid due to pcos and long cycles (42-43 days). Right away, my cycles reduced to between 26-32 days. I got pregnant on my 3rd cycle of Clomid, then miscarried.

My RE recommends that I go back on Clomid, and would like me to increase my Clomid dose to 100mg so that we can recruit more than 1 egg (since I was only ovulating one egg on the 50mg dose). I will also be taking progesterone this time.

1) Do you recommend that I increase my dose of Clomid to 100mg to recruit more than one egg (even though I was ovulating normally on the 50mg dose)?

2) If the next 3 months of Clomid are unsuccessful, my doctor recommends that I try FSH injections (since I will have been on clomid for a total of 6 consecutive months, including the 3 months before my miscarriage). Do you recommend moving to FSH injections, or staying on the Clomid since it was successful previously?

3) If I cannot get pregnant again during the next 3 months on Clomid, my doctor recommended getting a laparoscopy. Just wondering if you would recommend I proceed with a laparoscopy if I fail to get pregnant again? I feel like I just got pregnant after 3 months of Clomid, so that the procedure seems unnecessary to me. (I have also had bloodwork, SA, and HSG all come back as normal).

Thank you for your advice. Sincerely,S. from the U.K.

ANSWER:

Hello S. from the U.K.,

I am sorry for your miscarriage. Considering your treatment plan, because you responded to 50mg of Clomid previously, you certainly don't need to increase the amount. However, your doctor's strategy is to get you to ovulate more than one egg at a time to increase your chances of pregnancy with each attempt. We call that super-ovulation. With increasing the number of eggs, you certainly will be increasing the chances of a multiple pregnancy. If that is not acceptable then stay with just 50mg.

I do not recommend moving to FSH injections yet. They certainly have a place but since you have gotten pregnant with Clomid before, I would just increase the Clomid dose. You can go up to 250 mg of Clomid. 3 months also seems like a short time frame for the trial unless you are over 35 years old. Then you might want to proceed more aggressively.

If you move up to the injections then I would also recommend that you add IUI in order to increase your chances even more. I don't recommend a laparoscopy at this time because I don't see a reason for it. I keep in mind that you were successful already with Clomid which shows that everything your body needs to do in order to achieve pregnancy can occur. The pregnancy re-sets the time frame. Now you just need to go back to the same plan and keep trying!

Follow Up Question:

Dr. Ramirez,

Thank you for your prompt reply. It is extremely helpful. I just have a few follow-up questions:

I mentioned previously that I was on Clomid for 3 months and got pregnant on the 3rd month (and miscarried). I have now been on Clomid for another 2 months since the miscarriage and not gotten pregnant yet. So I will be starting my 6th consecutive month of Clomid this month.

You recommended I continue with Clomid at a higher dose (rather than move straight to the FSH injections), since Clomid worked for me before.

1) Could please tell me what is the longest period that I can safely be on Clomid for? [I keep reading that one is only supposed to be on Clomid for a limit of 6 consecutive months. I am going to be starting my 6th consecutive month of Clomid this month]

2) I also keep reading about two negative effects that can occur with continuous use of Clomid. One is thinned lining (my lining has been fine so far). The second effect I have read about is hostile cervical mucus.

My RE said she is willing to do a post-coital test to check on cervical mucus if I want one, but that she does not consider it a reliable test. So my question is - how am I supposed to know if my cervical mucus is being affected by the Clomid? Also, since I am now entering my 6th month of Clomid use, should I consider taking an estrogen supplement which can possibly improve cervical mucus? Thank you very much for your advice. Regards,S.

Follow Up Answer:

Hello Again, When I answered your previous question, I was not implying that I agreed with continuous Clomid cycles. I do not. Because of the "antiestrogenic" effects of Clomid, I do not use Clomid on a continuous monthly basis. I alternate with Femara, but if that is not used, then Clomid should be used on an every-other month basis so as not to block the estrogen receptors, for exactly the reasons you indicated. Yet, as I stated above, your pregnancy reset the time frame.

In terms of the maximum number of months to use Clomid, there is no rule that says that Clomid needs to be stopped after a certain number of months. However, if pregnancy does not occur, then you should move on to the next level of treatment after six months. In your case, since you became pregnant, that reset the count. Because fertility treatments cannot control the pregnancy, and can only give you the opportunity to become pregnant, that is where treatment success ends. So you are now on your second cycle of Clomid, not your 5th.

Certainly if you want to move to the higher level of treatments such as Follistim, there is no reason that you should not. I only suggested the Clomid because it is less expensive, easier to use and worked for you before.

Good Luck,

Edward J. Ramirez, M.D., FACOG

Executive Medical Director

The Fertility and Gynecology Center

Monterey Bay IVF Program

http://www.montereybayivf.com/

Monterey, California, U.S.A.

PCO Patient With Complex Hyperplasia Trying To Conceive: Needs To Lose Weight & Begin Clomid Protocol

Question:

Dr. Ramirez, I am 31 years old my husband is 40. We have been trying to conceive for about 3 years. I have taken Clomid about 4 different times. I have only had about 5 or 6 periods on my own in my entire life. I went to my OBGYN who put me on provera to get me to bleed then take 50mg clomid to start with. She told me that I had PCOS. In Dec of 2009 I hemorrhaged and had to have 4 units of blood. My OBGYN sent me to a oncologist who diagnosed me in Jan with complex hyperplasia with atypia and a well differentiated adenocarcinoma. They said I needed to have a hysterectomy but I want a baby really bad. They said we would have to try to reverse the condition first. They started me out on Megace then changed to Provera 15 mg a day for 1 month. I have had 3 d&c's. My last vaginal ultrasound showed everything was clear but my lining was very thin. My OBGYN stated that I could try clomid again and she put me on birth control pills which she said would help to make my lining thicker. She told me to take Nortrel birth control pills to start my period. I was on 100 mg of clomid but didn't ovulate. I haven't had a test done to check my husbands sperm because I know that I do have a problem and the test for him is too expensive. But I will have to have it done if I eventually start to ovulate and still do not get pregnant.

My OBGYN just started me on another cycle of the birth control pills and then 250mg of clomid. On the first cycle of 100 mg of clomid, I stopped taking the birth control pills when I started to bleed. Then I took the clomid on day three of bleeding. Was this wrong? Should I have kept taking the birth control pills even though I had started bleeding? I only had 2 left in the pack. I was just confused and was afraid that this might have been something to keep me from ovulating. Do you think that even though I have had the complex hyperplasia with atypia and the cancer that I can still possibly get pregnant? I also was wondering if my OBGYN said everything looked clear and I don't have the hyperplasia anymore then why can't I ovulate and get pregnant?

Answer:

Dear T.,

Thank you for your question and thank you for the very long history. You are certainly faced with a dilemma. However, you are not the first to have this problem and oncologists are very aware of what they need to do. After the Megace treatment, you should have had another D&C to make sure that the cancer was resolved. If you have not had that resolution, then that has to be done first. You don't want to be pregnant with cancer, and have that shorten your life with your new child. Also, the Megace treatment is only for very early stage cancers. If it is more advanced then do not delay the hysterectomy. They can preserve (not remove) your ovaries so that you can use a surrogate to achieve pregnancy. There have already been great successes with frozen ovarian tissue as well as frozen eggs. Do what is going to be the best for your child in the long term.

It sounds like your OB/GYN is proceeding correctly, however, you probably need to see an infertility subspecialist. If you do not respond to the 250 of Clomid, that is the maximum dose. It is time to move on, especially since time is not your friend. You should have had a basic evaluation, which included a semen analysis, before starting treatment. You don't want to waste time and energy if a Clomid-intercourse cycle is not going to work.

In terms of the birth control pill, you were correct is stopping the pill and not finishing it since your period started early. That is the key for starting the Clomid cycle.

In terms of getting pregnant, PCO is a complex but not insurmountable problem and is very common. However, most of these patients do not respond to the easy medications (Clomid, Latrezole) and have to move into the more complicated injectable medications. For that reason, I advise seeing a fertility specialist, not a general OB/GYN. In addition, you want to get pregnant as soon as possible, so that your cancer does not return. You may want to consider a treatment plan that is going to get you pregnant the efficiently.

Follow-up Question:

Dr. Ramirez, I did have the D&C after the megace and Provera treatment and it showed that I no longer had the complex hyperplasia with atypia or the cancer. They let me start the fertility medicine again. I am on the Nortrel birth control pills now and when I start my period I will be starting the 250mg of clomid. My husband hasn't had the semen test done yet because we do know that I can't ovulate so it is definitely a problem of mine right now. I just couldn't afford to have the test done for him. I don't think that I can see a infertility subspecialist because my insurance won't cover it. I wouldn't be able to afford it.

I was just curious if you thought that as long as the complex hyperplasia with atypia and the cancer are gone if I should be able to ovulate and get pregnant. I started out at 262 in December when I hemorrhaged and I am now 234. I am losing weight but find that I am staying pretty much at the same weight and can't lose anymore. I also have thyroid problems and I'm on Levothyroxine. I appreciate your help. Thank you!

Follow-up Answer:

Hi Again T.,

I'm glad to hear that the complex hyperplasia and cancer are gone! That buys you time. However, as I explained earlier, you will need to be cycled, so don't go any prolonged period of time without having a period.

I think you can safely assume that part of your infertility problem is the lack of ovulation. It is most likely that you have a disorder called polycystic ovarian syndrome. Your increased weight is contributing to the problem, and the PCO also causes you to increase weight. You should try to get your weight down as much as possible, close to your ideal weight. This by itself may induce your ovaries to begin ovulating on its own.

You also need to make sure that your Thyroid problem is under control and the levels are normal. This too can decrease your chances.Since financially you can't progress beyond Clomid at this point, it is certainly okay to continue trying Clomid. However, 250 mg is the maximum dose and many PCO patients do not respond to this dosage or clomid at all. In that case, you will have to go to the injectable medications, which are much more expensive, and you will definitely have to see a fertility specialist for that level of treatment.

Good luck and don't give up! It's possible that your fertility specialist may have various financial plans in place that will make it affordable for you and your husband to pursue treatment, as our center does.

Sincerely,

Edward J. Ramirez, M.D., FACOG

Executive Medical Director

The Fertility and Gynecology Center

Monterey Bay IVF Program

http://www.montereybayivf.com/

Monterey, California, U.S.A.

PCOS Patient Taking Natural Progesterone Cream For Cycles: NPC Does Not Help You To Ovulate, Only Regulates Cycle

Question:

Hi,

I have long cycles and was recently diagnosed with PCOS. Prior to my diagnosis I have tried everything under the sun to regulate them and help me to ovulate. Vitex, Evening Primrose Oil, Dr John Lee's Shutdown, (in which Natural Progesterone Cream is applied for CD's 5-26, then stopped) a couple unmedicated cycles, soy isoflavones, currently on 1000mg/day of Metformin and the ONLY cycles I had "normal" cycle length with ovulation, is when I took NPC (25mg/BID) from CD's 5-26 (or til Aunt Flow) I know normally NPC should suppress ovulation, but instead for me it helps me ovulate. Why would that be? I cannot make sense of it at all, but am impressed that this is all it took.

I recently had an appointment with my dr, who actually told me that the NPC would do me no good in the beginning of my cycle and I should stop the NPC and start BCP's for a while to help get my cycles regulated again.

Thank you,

L. from Oregon

Answer:

Hello L. from Oregon,

Natural progesterone cream (NPC) will NOT get you to ovulate, but will help to keep you regular. In fact, you don't need to take it as many days as you are taking if all you want is to have a period on a regular basis. All you have to do is use it on CD#16-25 (10 days). When you withdraw the progesterone, you will have a period, because that is what happens in the luteal phase of the cycle. The progesterone is working directly on the endometrial lining and causing it to "luteinize" which is why withdrawal of the hormone causes it to breakdown and bleed. We use other forms of "natural" progesterone such as prometrium, Crinone, Procheive, Endometrin and Provera to accomplish the same task. But the progesterone does nothing to the ovary so ovulation does not occur. In large enough doses of progesterone, as that contained in birth control pills, it will cause a suppression of ovarian function.

The birth control pill is only a treatment to regulate your cycles. If a woman with PCOS is not intending to become pregnant, then the treatment of choice is to use the birth control pill. On the other hand, if your goal is to start ovulating, because you want to get pregnant, then as a woman with PCOS you need to use a medication that will induce the ovaries to ovulate such as Clomid, Femara or injectable medications.

I hope this helps to explain things,

Edward J. Ramirez, M.D., FACOG

Executive Medical Director

The Fertility and Gynecology Center

Monterey Bay IVF Program

http://www.montereybayivf.com/

Monterey, California, U.S.A.

Injectables with IVF - Is Metformin Indicated?

Question:

Hello-I am from the US and I am 33 years old. My husband is 34. We have been trying for almost a year and saw an RE. I was told I have a fibroid that I am having removed laparoscopically the end of March. I was told by my doctor that since my huband's sperm is below where it needs to be (both count and motility) that I can begin IVF (in vitro fertilization) with injectable treatments about 2 cycles after the surgery. Which drugs are used? She mentioned ICSI (intracytoplasmic sperm injection) also. Will I have side effects from these injectable medications and if so what will they possibly be?

She also mentioned my possibly taking Metformin to try to enhance the IVF to work. I have heard mixed reviews on this medication actually working and was wondering what your take is on it. Can you please advise? I have heard of some unpleasant side effects from Metformin/Glucophage so I am not sure what to do.

What is the chance of IVF or IVF with ICSI to work? She said around 50% which I believe is much better than the 20% chance it would be which we were told if it would happen naturally. Is this true? I have had an ultrasound with saline and an HSG with dye- both came back fine other than the fibroid. I have been put on Synthroid to regulate my thyroid which I was told was slightly elevated. I am also on the birth control pill until I have the surgery to remove the fibroid the end of next month. I have had several blood tests testing my FSH, LH, Prolactin, Estradoil, glucose, etc all which have been normal results. Any additional info. you could provide would be appreciated.

Thanks!- S.

Answer:

Hello S.,

Let me answer your questions sequentially to make it easier:

1. Lots of different medications are used with IVF cycles. This is a question best answered by your doctor, or her IVf coordinator. Each doctor has different protocols, depending on their preferences and how they are trained. The main medications are called gonadotropins and are synthetic versions of the FSH and LH that your brain produces to stimulate the ovary to ovulate. We give higher dosages of these medications in order to make the ovary produce/prepare more that one egg. The goal with IVF, in order to maximize the chances of pregnancy, is to get more than one egg out. Preferably 10-20. This is because not every egg is a good egg.

2. Most women tolerate these medications very well since they are essentially the same as the hormones your body produces. Of course, all medications have side effects and each person is different and can react differently to each medication. The biggest side effect of these stimulation drugs is that the ovaries will enlarge and become tender because so many eggs are being recruited. In addition, some patients will feel bloated. If the ovaries are stimulated too strongly, or the ovaries respond too strongly, you can develop an illness called "hyperstimulation syndrome." This is a very serious and dangerous problem that has to be prevented and managed appropriately. If you have PCO, which I suspect you might have since your doctor recommended Metformin, you are at increased risk for hyperstimulation syndrome. You need to discuss this with your doctor and ask her what she does to prevent this. There are methods that we use to prevent this from occurring such as using lower dosage protocols, close monitoring of blood levels, coasting or drifting if necessary, antagonist protocol, triggering with Lupron instead of HCG.3. Metformin is only indicated in 30-40% of patients that have PCOD. It is NOT indicated in all patients AND, it takes 6-8 months to work so starting it with an IVF cycle is not appropriate. I would not recommend it unless you have been found to have insulin resistance by blood testing.

4. In terms of IVF working, you have a 50-70% chance of pregnancy with each IVF cycle in your age group. You should ask you doctor what her statistic is. Pregnancy rates do vary depending on the clinic and the doctor, so be sure to check both out.5. With a severe sperm disorder, the chances of pregnancy would be much less than 20%. Your natural chances of pregnancy at your age, if there were absolutely no problems, would be about 15% per month of trying. With the sperm problem it would drop it to less than 10%. That is why IVF is the treatment of choice. With IVF and ICSI, we had a 75% pregnancy rate per transfer in 2009. Most clinics are reaching that level as well.

I hope this information helps. Be sure to ask lots of questions. You will be paying a lot of money for this treatment and you should make sure you have had ALL your questions answered to your satisfaction. This type of procedure is like shopping at Saks 5th Avenue. You should demand and get the highest level of service!

Good Luck,

Edward J. Ramirez, M.D., FACOG

Executive Medical Director

The Fertility and Gynecology Center

Monterey Bay IVF Program

http://www.montereybayivf.com/

Monterey, California, U.S.A.

ELONVA, A New Sustained Follicle Stimulant Just Approved In Europe!

Dear Readers,

I just read a news release from the big drug manufacturer Merck that they have been approved by the European Commission to market a new drug for IVF patients that will make their lives remarkably easier! It is a sustained release follicle stimulating hormone called Elonva, the first of it's kind! Whereas women undergoing IVF now have to have daily subcutaneous injections of FSH, with Elonva they will only have to have a subcutaneous injection ONCE a week. This is a significant improvement, thanks to the Organon division of Merck pharmaceuticals.

From what I have read in their press release, this new long-acting FSH lasts for 7 days. It has to be used with an antagonist so that doctors that already use antagonist protocols will have an easier time adapting to the new regimen. Those that use the long protocol will be less amenable to use it because they will have to get comfortable with two new meds. It will replace the first 7 days of injections required by currently available medications. Hopefully, the cost of medication will be equivalent or less, but for sure patients will appreciate the reduced number of injections! I can't wait for an FSH/LH equivalent for my mixed protocols. I hope the FDA approves it ASAP for U.S.A. use. Otherwise, I might have to take a lot of trips to Europe :-)

See the following link to get more information: http://bit.ly/cQpXn5

Here's hoping for a quick release for our patients in the United States!

Edward Ramirez, MD, FACOG

Executive Medical Director

Fertility & Gynecology Center

Monterey Bay IVF

http://www.montereybayivf.com/

Oral vs. Injectable Fertility Drugs

Question:

What's the difference between oral and injectable fertility drugs?

Answer:

They are completely different classes of drugs. The oral fertility drugs are called Clomid and Femara. Both of these are Estrogen receptor blockers. The brain modulates ovarian function by checking the estrogen levels. By blocking the estrogen receptors, the brain is fooled into thinking that there is inadequate estrogen production, so it increases the amount of FSH and LH hormone to stimulate the ovary. In this way, the ovary is stimulated to ovulation, in non-ovulatory patients, or to incerase the number of eggs ovulated, in ovulatory patients.

The injectable fertility drugs are FSH and LH. Previously, these were purified, human hormones, but now they have been able to be synthesized. They are the same hormones that the brain sends to stimulate the ovary, so they stimulate the ovary directly, instead of indirectly like the oral drugs. They are stronger and work better because of the direct stimulation. That is why we use these preferentially with IVF. They are more expensive.

I hope this answers your question!

Edward J. Ramirez, M.D., FACOG
Executive Medical Director
The Fertility and Gynecology Center
Monterey Bay IVF Program
Monterey, California, U.S.A.

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