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Secondary Infertility, High Responder PCO Patient: Why Did I Fail Two IVF Cycles?
Hi, I am 28 years old and my husband and I have a naturally conceived 3 year old son. We are dealing with secondary infertility. We have gone through 2 IVF cycles.
1st IVF/ICSI cycle-21 eggs--11 fertilized (70% fert. rate)--transferred 2 great 8 cell embryos. None to freeze. Negative result
2nd IVF/ICSI cycle
19 eggs--(85% fert. rate)--8 embryos on day 3
1-8 cell grade 1 (best)
2-8 cell grade
21-8 cell grade
32-7 cell grade
22-5 cell grade 2
No transfer because of lining issues. Did one FET--ended in a chemical pregnancy.
My question--do I have poor egg quality? Lab results said some eggs were abnormal, with thicker zona. Any hope to go through IVF again?
I'm from Fargo, ND. Thanks in advance!
Hello M. from North Dakota,
From the number of eggs retrieved, I presume you also had a high number of follicles (>20). That indicates that you are responding like a PCO patient, or have PCOD. Studies have shown that there is a decrease in pregnancy rates with PCO patients, probably due to a high number of immature eggs retrieved. It also seems to affect egg quality. That is not because you have abnormal eggs, it is probably because the PCO causes an inefficiency in egg maturation.I would not give up hope. In fact, I would encourage you to continue trying because you will be successful. It may take some more tries, and hopefully, your doctor will adjust your protocol to try to reduce your stimulation. It would be better to have fewer follicles with good eggs than lots of follicles with poor eggs.
By the way, I just had a patient from your end of the country, Montana, that previously went to a clinic in Washington state and had two failed IVF cycles. She was a secondary infertility patient as well. Well, the change in weather or location or clinic did the trick because she became pregnant with one attempt, and with twins. Infertility Physicians and clinics are not all equal. That may have a bearing on your success as well. I am worried about the fact that despite all the eggs, your embryo quality rate and number to freeze were so low. That might also indicate a laboratory issue.
In any case, don't give up hope. You will eventually be successful.