Showing posts with label Infertility. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Infertility. Show all posts

Tuesday, July 14, 2015

"How In Vitro Fertilization Works" Video from TED-Ed

Dear Readers,
I recently found this nicely animated video on In Vitro Fertilization created on the new TED-Ed platform. You might find this a good way to not only inform yourself but also friends and family who might have trouble understanding the fertilization process. 

"Infertility affects 1 in 8 couples worldwide. But in the last 40 years, more than 5 million babies have been born using in vitro fertilization (IVF). How does it work? Nassim Assefi and Brian A. Levine detail the science behind making a baby in a lab."

Lesson by Nassim Assefi and Brian A. Levine, animation by Kozmonot Animation Studio.


 
 
 
As always, I am open to questions regarding this complex but important assisted reproductive technology, IVF.
 
 
Dr. Edward J. Ramirez, M.D., FACOG
Executive Medical Director
The Fertility and Gynecology Center
Monterey Bay IVF Program

Monterey, California, U.S.A.



Saturday, December 21, 2013

TTC After Surgery For Stage Four Endometriosis


Dear Readers,
As the year draws to a close I want to wish all my readers near and far the very best in their lives as you move forward into 2014. I hope that the blessings of health and peace are with you all and for those of you who continue to struggle with infertility, I can only wish with all my heart that the journey will come to a positive conclusion for you in 2014.
Thank you for following my blog and God Bless.
Edward J. Ramirez, M.D.
 
Question:
Hello,

I was diagnosed with stage 4 endometriosis in 2011 (26 yrs old) after a laparoscopy found a large endometrioma. I've never had painful periods prior so that diagnosis was surprising to me.I then grew back another large endometrioma and had my 2nd lap in June 2013. I am now 29 and have been TTC (trying to conceive) since my surgery in June. I was told to try naturally for the 1st 6 months. I am now on my 7th cycle and beginning to look into other options. I have seen that with stage 4 endo the treatment of choice is IVF over trying clomid / IUI. Can you explain why?  I understand surgery can affect ovarian reserve but am looking for better understanding.
What would you recommend my next steps be? How aggressive should I be in getting pregnant right away since I only had a two years between surgeries was regrowth or large endometriomas?  Thank you.

C. from California
Answer:

Hello C. from the U.S. (California),
Unfortunately, Stage 3 and 4 endometriosis have been found to significantly decrease fertility rates.  This is because endometriosis cause a chronic inflammation of the pelvis that recruits inflammatory cells and these cells attack and destroy the eggs when ovulation occurs (this of course is putting is very simply for ease of understanding).  In stage 4 endometriosis, severe adhesions or scar tissue formation occurs in the pelvis.  These adhesions are like spider webs so that when the egg exits the ovary and moves into the pelvis, prior to finding the tube, the eggs get caught in these spiker webs or the webs block the tubes so that the egg never gets into the tube where fertilization takes place.

Because of this, the only way to achieve pregnancy is to bypass the tubes, which you cannot do by natural means.  For that reason IVF is the only option.  Now, even I have had patients with stage 4 endometriosis get pregnant, and as a Catholic I believe in miracles, and so don't doubt that this can happen.  However, statistically speaking these cases are very, very few.
In terms of the recurrence of endometriosis or endometriomas, this is a chronic disease and new implants are continuously forming.  For that reason, you can form new endometriomas, despite the previous ones being removed.

Good Luck,
Dr. Edward J. Ramirez, M.D., FACOG
Executive Medical Director
The Fertility and Gynecology Center
Monterey Bay IVF Program
www.montereybayivf.com

Monterey, California, U.S.A.

Sunday, September 29, 2013

Protect Your Fertility!

Dear Readers,
The American Society of Reproductive Medicine has launched a campaign with the aim of educating women on how to protect their fertility by avoiding certain risk factors. The Society has made available a number of fact sheets, graphics and brochures that are all downloadable on their "Protect Your Fertility" page. At our center we also offer the ability to extend the fertility of a woman by either freezing her eggs or her embryos. See "Fertility Preservation" for more information.

Check out the selection of fact sheets, infographics and a brochure on the ASRM page, including:
  • "Advancing Age Decreases Your Ability To Have Children"
  • "Smoking and Infertility"
  • "Protect Your Fertility Brochure"
  • "Impact of Age on Female Fertility"
  • "Practicing Safe Sex Now Protects Your Ability To Have Children Later"
To quote ASRM: "At the risk of sounding like your high school health teacher, the decisions you make today really can impact your fertility and ability to have kids later. That's why it's so important to learn how to take care of your body. After all, there's a huge difference between choosing not to have kids and physically being unable to conceive if and when you want to."

Be proactive about your fertility health!

Edward J. Ramirez, M.D., F.A.C.O.G.
Executive Medical Director
The Fertility and Gynecology Center
Monterey Bay IVF Program
www.montereybayivf.com

Monterey, California, U.S.A.

Thursday, August 22, 2013

Is A Tubal Reversal A Good Option For Me?


QUESTION:
I am a 33 year old mother of two. My children are 11 and nearly 10 years old.  After the birth of my second child in 2003 I had surgery to prevent further pregnancies. (I was in an unhappy marriage and only 23, and couldn't see myself ever getting out with 2 children.) The doctor was reluctant, because I was so young, but he decided to go ahead and perform the sterilization surgery. My tubes are not cut or clipped or burnt, they just have little clips on them to prevent the egg from passing through.  But just as many people predicted, now I regret the decision.  
I am divorced, my children are growing up, and I am in a wonderful relationship with a man who has no children of his own but would very much like to have one.  Barring infertility issues on his part, is there much hope of us being able to reverse my tubal and conceive a child of our own?  I don't have any other medical issues. I am healthy and active, average healthy weight, non-smoking, non-drinking...same for him. He is 39 and I'll be 34 this year, so we feel like the clock is ticking on any opportunity for another child.  Can this surgery be done, what are the odds of conception afterwards, what factors do I need to consider, how long do you need to wait after the surgery before trying to conceive.  And what is the average cost??  I appreciate any answers you can give me on the matter.
Thank-you! K. from Kentucky

ANSWER:
Hello K. from the U.S. (Kentucky),

The type of tubal ligation that you have is the best to reverse because the majority of the tube is kept intact and there is minimal damage to adjacent tubes.  Also, considering you are young still, a tubal reversal would be a good option in your case. A good and experienced gynecologist or reproductive specialist can do the reversal either by laparoscopy (using a scope and little incisions) or by a mini-laparotomy (a small incision above the pubic bone. You would want to find a surgeon who is well experienced in this and does them a lot to get the best chances for success.  
I have had a patient who went to North Carolina to have hers done by a doc who only does reversals. The risks for this procedure are the same risks as for any surgery (infection, bleeding, general anesthesia, injury to adjacent structures, failure) but this is not considered a major surgery, but rather should be an outpatient (same day) surgery.  In terms of success, those rates can vary widely so I can't give you an exact number.  A good surgeon will have an 80% success rate in patients under 35 years old after 1 year of trying.  If a pregnancy does not occur within 1 year, then the procedure probably has failed.  
Basically, with a tubal reversal, all you are doing is attempting to restore your natural fertility rate. This rate is very age dependent.  Your chances of natural pregnancy at 25 years old was 85% per year whereas at 35 it will be 30% per year because your eggs have aged.  So, keep these statistics in mind. The alternative to a tubal reversal, and with a higher likelihood of success is In Vitro Fertilization, but the down side is you would have to do this every time you wanted a child from this point on.  With a reversal, you could continue to have children by natural means if you wanted more than one.  Cost wise, tubal reversal will vary depending on the doctor, the clinic and whether or not it is done in an outpatient surgery center or hospital.  The cheapest I have seen is about $6000 and is done in an outpatient surgery center.  Hospital performed reversals will be $15,000-18,000.  I hope that gives you the information you needed.

Good Luck,

Dr. Edward J. Ramirez, M.D., FACOG
Executive Medical Director
The Fertility and Gynecology Center
Monterey Bay IVF Program
www.montereybayivf.com

Monterey, California, U.S.A.
Comment: Thank you so much, once again. Armed with the information you provided, we can now move forward! I feel like I got lucky having my question go to such a knowledgeable and open volunteer!

Saturday, July 6, 2013

Finally Pregnant After Multiple Miscarriages: "I Am A Nervous Wreck!"


Hello Dr. Ramirez,

I've written you in the past regarding my fertility challenges and your responses have been very encouraging. In my last, I discussed how I'd experienced an early loss in March after our first IVF attempt. You encouraged me to be strong and keep trying that my chances were good. You were right. I waited until my next cycle began and started a more simple IUI cycle again with just Follistim injections. My first miscarriage in April 2012 after IUI with Femara/GonalF was caused by trisomy 3. I found studies that said use of Femara in some women could increase the chances of aneuploidy. This time we tried without the Femara and I have become pregnant again.
I have gone through the complete RPL panel-DNA analysis, autoimmune, alloimmune, thyroid, hysteroscopy, etc. Everything has been normal. I believe the second miscarriage, because it began just 16 days after embryo transfer, was due to my body being weak (I was very sick during stimulation and had a lap/hysteroscopy/cystectomy 3 weeks before I started stimulants). I am 32, maybe borderline diminishing reserve (last AMH was .9), but otherwise nothing really bad with me.

So I am currently past 9 weeks. My betas doubled and were actually in the higher end of the ranges for weeks along. I did a viability ultrasound at 5 weeks and could see the heartbeat. Embryo measured exactly the right size. At 7 weeks we could hear the heartbeat at 174. RE saw me again at 8 weeks and said I looked good, released me to my OBGYN, said most women miscarry between 7-8 weeks. I've had no spotting or cramping. OBGYN is letting me do weekly scans until I'm through my first trimester. Heartbeat has stayed in the 170 range. Growth is continuing. Last ultrasound at 9 weeks showed the baby kicking its legs.
Here's the thing - I'm a nervous wreck. I'm terrified of something going wrong again. I am fighting to follow reason rather than fear but it is so hard. I have hardly any symptoms certainly none of the "noticeable" ones which means most of the time I don't feel like I'm pregnant. My last HCG was only at 102,900 when it was checked at 8.5 weeks, which I felt was low for where it had been but I know it slows down. My progesterone in the beginning was all the way up to 75 and is now holding at 30 (I had cysts leftover from after the IUI, made 3 follicles).
The statistics are all over the place. Some say less than 5% when heartbeat is detected but that can jump to 20% if you've had prior losses. I read it's even less once you enter the fetal stage past 8.5 weeks.

I feel stupid for asking but your answers are thoughtful. What do you think my chances are of carrying this baby to term? What would you say my change of miscarriage is? And why in the world do I hardly feel anything? I'm a little tired in the evenings and I pee in the middle of the night with crazy dreams, breasts are bigger but not sore, no nausea, etc.  But hardly anything to notice. Thank you so much for your time.  L. from Indiana

Answer:

Hello L. from the U.S. (Indiana),
CONGRATULATIONS :)  Like your RE, I release my patients at 8 1/2 weeks gestational age because the risk of miscarriage is minimal.  Statistics show that the risk of miscarriage is up to 50% prior to 8 weeks gestational age and then decreases to 5% up to 12 weeks gestation.  So you are now at 5% risk but the fact that all the signs have been good, is very encouraging and I would not worry about miscarrying.  At this point, the only risk of a miscarriage would be if there is a major genetic abnormality, and this would be a baby that you wouldn't want to go to term any way.  You should certainly consider genetic testing early to check on that.  There is now a blood screening test that can be done at an early stage.

In my experience, and as evidenced by the data, most patients will have a successful pregnancy and delivery at this point.  The fact that you "don't feel any different" with this pregnancy is irrelevant.  Every pregnancy is different and different people experience pregnancy differently.  Some have pregnancy symptoms and some have none.  You may be one of the lucky ones that doesn't have to suffer with the "morning sickness" or other such symptoms.  For now, pray that all continues to go well and thank God for the blessing.

Good Luck,
Edward J. Ramirez, M.D.
Executive Medical Director
The Fertility And Gynecology Center
Monterey Bay IVF
Monterey, California, U.S.A.
 

Monday, October 8, 2012

Smoking And Infertility

Question:

Dear Dr. Ramirez,

I'm 18 and I just started smoking, but I'm afraid it will effect my ability to have children. I know smoking can cause cancers, but in females, does smoking cause permanent infertility? A friend of mine told me it just causes temporary infertility, and since I'm 18 and no where near ready for a baby, I wasn't too worried. But I do want to have children when I'm older. Could you please help give me advice on this? A. from Georgia

Answer:

Hello A. from the U.S. (Georgia),

Smoking does not cause permanent infertility but has been shown to affect fertility i.e. reduce the chances. More importantly, it can cause other permanent diseases such as lung cancer, heart disease, throat cancer, stroke and deep venous thrombosis. Smoking at the time of pregnancy can lead to poor fetal development, poor fetal outcomes and other complications.

Because smoking reduces the blood vessel diameter (vascularity), it affects the chances of pregnancy by reducing blood flow to the implantation site, developing embryo and placental flow. There is also an increased risk of miscarriage.

I hope that gives you enough reason to stop while it is still easy to do so. Keep in mind that smoking is a ADDICTION and gets harder and harder to stop with time.

Good Luck,

Dr. Edward J. Ramirez, M.D., FACOG
Executive Medical Director
The Fertility and Gynecology Center
Monterey Bay IVF Program
www.montereybayivf.com

Saturday, August 21, 2010

Infertility Bloggers Offer A Great Support Network!


Dear Readers:

I would like to refer you to some of the blogs that I follow that I consider worthwhile. Some of these ladies are still going through IF, some have finally achieved the pregnancy that they have been hoping for, some are going the adoption route & all are infertility advocates. I admire them for being willing to share their infertility journey publicly. They all welcome your comments & laments. Here are some: http://www.thefertilityblogs.com/ (a collection of bloggers), http://www.pouringoutmyinsides.blogspot.com/ , http://www.infertilityoverachievers.com/ , http://www.fromiftowhen.com/(in her 2ww period now), http://www.roadtohappilyeverafter.com/ (PCOS w/6 IUI's now pregnant), http://www.fertilitychick.blogspot.com/ (one of my fav's...on a break from IF treatments) and of course, one of the most popular blogs out there, the very funny, sometimes heart-breakingly so, http://www.999reasonstolaugh.com/ .

Another great resource: A few months ago I participated in Melissa, "The Stirrup Queen's", very rewarding "ICLW " infertility blogroll (http://www.stirrup-queens.com/2010/08/icomleavwe-august-2010/). On her website you will find a links this month to 166 blogs !!! Melissa has been blogging since 2006. To quote her: "Blogging is a conversation and comments should be honoured and encouraged. I like to say that comments are the new hug–a way of saying hello, giving comfort, leaving congratulations." In addition to Stirrup Queens, she also writes the daily Lost and Found (LFCA).

If you have a blog that you want to add to my list...please leave a comment & I will add it! Good luck on all your journeys, and remember:

"All of life is a journey; which paths we take, what we look back on, and what we look forward to is up to us. We determine our destination, what kind of road we will take to get there, and how happy we are when we get there." from A Little Book of Happiness

Edward Ramirez, MD
Infertility Blogger...& Friend

Thursday, April 15, 2010

How I Do Clomid Induction Cycles...A Controlled Cycle Approach


Dear Readers,

Recently, I received a private question regarding the use of Clomid in a natural ovulation cycle. This 31 year old patient has been seeing an OB/Gyn for her infertility evaluation and treatment. She has gone through eight failed natural cycles, "diligently" using ovulation charts and opk's. After seeing her doctor, she was put on Clomid. "My first appointment, she never asked me what specific day I was ovulating, just ordered the blood work. Thus, I scheduled the second appointment to assert my concern. She proceeded to prescribe me 50mg of Clomid on days 5-9." Unfortunately, this patient failed with her first cycle using Clomid and is unsure how to proceed.

I know that there are many of you out there with similar concerns, so I have decided to publish my response to her question by outlining my Clomid timed ovulation protocol. As an infertility specialist and an Ob/Gyn, this is the approach that has yielded success for me with patients like the one above.

Her closing concerns mirror many others I have received in the past: "What would be your advice for me at this point in the process? Should I be patient and continue with Clomid and not be concerned with late ovulation? Should I go to a different ob-gyn or assert myself more with my current Dr? Or, should I go to a fertility specialist?".

Answer:

Hello J. from the U.S.,

First, let me explain how I do Clomid ovulation induction cycles, which is the way that I recommend. I DO NOT recommend just taking clomid and trying to time intercourse on your own (noninterventional method), which is what a lot of OB/GYN's like to do.

1. Patient calls with onset of period or within the first five days of onset. She is scheduled to be seen within the first five days of the cycle.

2. Patient comes in for a baseline ultrasound to evaluate for the presence of an ovarian cyst. Ovarian cysts are a contraindication to using fertility medications and will interfere with the cycle. The cyst may just get bigger and ovulation will not be accomplished.

3. Treatment calendar is made up showing when everything is going to happen, approximately.

4. Patient stops having intercourse on cycle day #10.

5. Patient returns on cycle day #10, 11 or 12 for vaginal ultrasound to check for: whether she is responding to that dose of Clomid as manifest by multiple growing follicles, how many follicles are growing and if the follicular size is appropriate for ovulation. Serial daily or every other day ultrasounds are done until the ovulatory follicle(s) reach the appropriate size of 18-24 mms.

6. Once the follicles reach the appropriate size, HCG is given to trigger ovulation.

7. If a timed intercourse cycle, the patient begins intercourse the next day for four consecutive days, only one ejaculation per day. If an IUI cycle, the patient has an IUI the next day and following day.

8. Vaginal progesterone is then started either on the 5th day after trigger if a timed intercourse cycle, or the day after the second IUI, and continued until the pregnancy test.

9. Blood pregnancy test is done two weeks after the trigger and the progesterone is NOT stopped until this result is negative. If positive, it is continued until 10 weeks gestational age. We DO NOT wait for onset of menses, because often it will not come if progesterone is taken.

If this is not the way that your doctor is using Clomid, then he/she is not treating you appropriately in my opinion, and you should find someone who will. Usually a fertility specialist is the appropriate choice, but there are many general Ob/Gyn's who do fertility well. The purpose of Clomid in your case, is to get your ovaries to function normally. Usually that will regulate your ovulatory cycles and you will ovulate by cycle day # 14. Clomid often shortens the follicular phase (first two weeks), if an appropriate dose is used. Clomid can be given in doses from 50 mg to 250 mg. The doctor has to find what the lowest appropriate dose is and that is done by trial and error. Without checking with the ultrasound, he/she can't know how you are responding. In clomid cycles you don't want more than 5 ovulatory sized follicles. Also, you don't want to do consecutive months with Clomid because it blocks estrogen receptors and can lead to poor endometrial lining and poor cervical mucous. Clomid is one of the most misused drugs in the U.S.

Sorry for the mass of information, but I hope this will give you what you need to know to make an appropriate informed decision.

Good Luck,

Edward J. Ramirez, M.D., FACOG
Executive Medical Director
The Fertility and Gynecology Center
Monterey Bay IVF Program
Monterey, California, U.S.A.

Saturday, April 3, 2010

IVF Poor Responder With Endometriosis And Nightsweats



Question:

Hello, Dr.

I am from New Jersey , USA. and I have 2 questions for you.

I was diagnosed with stage 4 endometriosis in January of 2009. The surgeon removed all my endo in the operating room. Since the surgery I've been having nightsweats in the morning. From what I read from the internet, it can be due to the high estrogen level in my blood. I have 1.5cm cyst on my left ovary). Somehow the doctors I have seen so far don't know what is causing this.

1)What is the cause of my nightsweats?(I have it almost every morning)

My hormone levels were taken several times.

FSH=3.84 E2=92.3? in JULY 2009
FSH=10.4 E2=52 in October 2009
AMH=1.4 in November 2009

I tried IVF in October 2009 and failed.

I had only 1 immatrue oocyte at the retrieval even though on the ultrasound there were at least big 6-7 follicles. The doctor who retrieved the egg said the others could be chocolate cysts not real eggs. My RE used an antagonist protocol for IVF in October 2009. I had to take estradiol tablets for a week in the luteal phase just before the actual cycle.

Now I changed my RE, and she said she'll try something "flare protocol". This will take 2 months and I will have to start with estradiol patch for a week before the cycle. Isn't this almost similar to the antagonist protocol I tried before? How come the RE'S give me extra estrogen when they know that I have endometriosis? Wouldn't it make my cyst( 1.5cm cyst on my left ovary) grow bigger when they do this?

2)Will this micro flare protocol work for me? Thank you!

ANSWER:

Hello J. from the New Jersey,

First of all, "night sweats" can be from multiple causes such as decreased estrogen (menopause or ovarian dysfunction) or thyroid problems or cardiac problems.

In terms of your subsequent questions, there is some confusion. You had two FSH levels drawn, one was 3.84 and the other 10.4. Were these done on cycle day# 2 or 3 because that is when they need to done to interpret them correctly. From a fertility perspective, we want the FSH level to be less than 7 on cycle day #2 or 3. When it is higher, that signifies that the ovaries are "resistant" which means that they will not respond well to stimulation because they are not going to pick up the hormone adequately. As a woman ages, her ovaries become more and more resistant, but this can occur in younger ages as well. That may explain why you did not have very many follicles. Endometriosis does not and will not affect your response to stimulation. The problem with increasing estrogen is that endometriosis thrives and grows from estrogen, so that it can cause a recurrence of the endometriosis. Your first FSH level was actually very good and would indicate good ovarian response. In fact, you would probably not need too much medication (low protocol). Without having all the details of your IVF cycle, I cannot answer questions to it specifically, but your yield was very low. There could be multiple reasons for this.

I presume your new RE is going to try the "flare" protocol because you are a poor responder, low ovarian response. The flare is only another technique that is used to try to increase the egg yield, and is something different to try but has not shown any additional benefit is current studies. The antagonist protocol just means that an antagonist is used to suppress the ovaries instead of an agonist. The ovaries are suppressed so that they don't spontaneously ovulate or function on their own, so that the cycle can be better programmed, the ovaries can respond to stimulation better and don't short-circuit the stimulation. In addition, we don't want the ovaries to ovulate before we have the chance to retrieve the eggs. There is no difference between using an antagonist or agonist, in general, except there are less injections with the antagonist (3-4 vs 21). Antagonists are medications such as Ganerelix or Cetrotide and Agonist is Lupron.

I would advise that you not worry so much about your endometriosis. IVF is the treatment of choice and bypasses the endometriosis. If you become pregnant, pregnancy is a GREAT treatment for endometriosis so that is the goal. Quite often, Endo pain decreases dramatically after a successful pregnancy.

Your first cycle did not do very well because of the poor stimulation (which could be due to not enough medications) and low retrieval number. The fact that the egg was immature could be because the egg was not given enough time to mature ie. you were triggered too soon. So, I would advise that you keep trying. Your RE will adjust your protocol to give you the best chance of success. Studies show good cumulative pregnancy rates if a patient keeps trying, even in older women.

Good Luck,

Edward J. Ramirez, M.D., FACOG
Executive Medical Director
The Fertility and Gynecology Center
Monterey Bay IVF Program
www.montereybayivf.com

Monday, March 29, 2010

Confused Canadian IVF Patient Told She Is PCOS & Ovarian Resistant: Not Possible! What Is The Right Approach?


Question:

Hello Dr. Ramirez,

I am a 36 year old woman who has just attempted my first IVF cycle after 5 unsuccessful IUI's. I have been diagnosed with PCOS and ovarian resistance even thought my FSH has always been low on my day 3 blood work. I do not have a regular period and have needed clomid and Puregon injections in order to ovulate for the IUI's.

This past IVF cycle my numbers were as follows: Day 3 - FSH 5.7, Estrogen 112, Progesterone 3.5 and LH 7.6. I commenced 150 of Puregon on Day 3 and continued on Day 4 and 5. On Day 6 my blood work results were: Estrogen 334, Progesterone 3 and LH 4 and I had many follicles at 1.0. I upped my Puregon to 200 for Day 6 and 7. On Day 8 my blood work was Estrogen 717, Progesterone 2.7 and LH 2.7 and none of the follicles were progressing. I went back in on Day 9 for a follow-up ultra sound and there was no change in follicle size. My IVF cycle was cancelled.

My question is what would the IVF protocol be for someone who has a history of ovarian resistance? Would my dosage need to be increased or combined with other medication? I have had a egg reserve blood test done and I apparently have a very high number of eggs for someone my age. I would assume that would be because I do not ovulate on a regular basis. The question then comes down to egg quality. If I do not ovulate, does that compromise egg quality? Any advice or light you can shine on my situation would be very helpful.
B. from Canada

Answer:

Hello B. from Canada,

First of all, having BOTH PCOS and Ovarian resistance does not compute. Ovarian resistance is when the ovaries do not respond well to stimulation. PCOS patients tend to over-respond to stimulation. Somehow, I'm not sure your doctors have it right. You should be one or the other.

You do not have ovarian resistance based on your description of having "many follicles". You were also on a low protocol, probably in anticipation of being a high responder due to PCOS. Based on your estradiol levels, you were progressing well, but your follicles were small as is characteristic of PCOS patients. They tend to stimulate and grow a lot of follicles, which progress more slowly, instead of selecting a few and growing them more rapidly. Keep in mind that 200IU or Puregon is a low dose. My highest protocol is 600IU. I don't know why your doctor canceled your cycle. Maybe he/she felt uncomfortable with number of follicles you had and did not want to risk hyper-stimulation syndrome. Obviously, your doctor is not used to treating PCOS patients. Also, you were only cycle day #8 which is still early in the cycle. Most patients will go to cycle day #12 or 14 before the follicles are ready. Since your estradiol was only 717, you were not at risk for hyper-stimulation syndrome as yet. Patients that develop hyper-stimulation syndrome tend to have estradiol levels over 2000 by cycle day # 9.

Also, you should keep in mind that at 36, you are still young and most of your eggs should still be at good quality. You have a good FSH. Age is not an issue for you yet.

In terms of protocols, I cannot give you a standard protocol because every program and doctor has different protocols and combination of protocols. I prefer to use a "mixed" protocol which combines both FSH and FSH/LH (I use Follistim for FSH and Menopur for FSH/LH). In your case, you just were not stimulated enough, and the doc should have kept going and increasing the dosage, whether you use the single agent protocol like you did or use a mixed protocol.

I hate to say this, but I might suggest that you consider seeking out a different clinic or doctor, because I am leery about how your first cycle went. Again, I don't think you are a "low responder" so you might want to discard that label for yourself. Low responders barely respond to 600IU or more of medication and often the estradiol doesn't get much above 300-400.

Keep trying and good luck,

Edward J. Ramirez, M.D., FACOG
Executive Medical Director
The Fertility and Gynecology Center
Monterey Bay IVF Program
Monterey, California, U.S.A.

Monday, January 18, 2010

19 Year Old With Very Irregular Periods May Have PCOD


Question:

I am a 19 year old female (obviously). I had my first period when I was approximately 11 years old and for the first three to four months I had a regular cycle. After that period of time my cycle became irregular (which is in no way odd for someone of that age), being that I would menstruate every other month rather than every single month. After approximately 4 to 5 months of this my menstruation stopped completely. Over the course of the next 3 years I would have a period perhaps once every 5 to 6 months, and there would never be any mood swings, cramping, bloating, or overly heavy flow. The intervals between menstruation began to increase from there, lengthening to 8 months between periods (give or take two months).

This month and last month, however, I have had my period. Two months in a row after almost 13 months without anything. This past month, however, I have experienced severe cramping and moodiness. I know that it is not uncommon for cramping to occur after a prolonged period of time without menstruation, but the fact that I was incapacitated and in bed for two days was unbelievable to me.

I have had no problem developing secondary sexual characteristics, which would probably be signals of a pituitary or other glandular disorder. I am not obese, nor am I incredibly tall or short, which, from what I have gathered, excludes most thyroid issues.

I have no health insurance at current. During the course of my teenage years I would occasionally see an MD for various checkups, and I would bring up the matter of my irregularity. Every doctor I has ever seen has sloughed off the issue as probably having to do with "stress". This answer does nothing to satisfy me, as it seems like a knee-jerk reaction because they were either at a loss or because I could not afford whatever tests might actually tell me.

My worry, for quite some time now, has been the question of fertility. I have no actual plans to have children at any point in the near future, and I am not (nor have I ever been) sexually active. However, I need to know if I even CAN have children, for my own piece of mind. I know that without an examination, there's only so much you can tell me, but any information on what you might think is amiss would be greatly appreciated.

Answer:

Thank you for your question. For a 19 year old, your writing is incredibly sophisticated and impressive. You seem to be well educated. Most women do not know about "secondary sexual characteristics" or how the "pituitary or other glands" affect their cycles. Bravo to you for this knowledge.

Your irregular period is far from normal. There is a very common disorder, which you seem to be alluding to, called polycystic ovarian syndrome or PCOS. This is an ovarian dysfunction disorder caused by the ovary not processing the pituitary hormones correctly, leading to the lack of ovulation. Without ovulation, there is no subsequent menses, assuming you are not pregnant. We know that this disorder begins in the teen years in many women. So the doctor's previous explanations of "this is normal for your age group", is incorrect. There are problems that occur from PCOD in the long term such as increased weight gain, diabetes, increased facial and body hair growth, excessive bleeding episodes, irregular bleeding, endometrial cancer and infertility. Because of this, we DO NOT recommend continuing with the irregular cycles.

In women that are not attempting pregnancy, we use the birth control pill protocol to over-ride the ovaries and keep a normal cycle. This gives the essential female hormones, estrogen and progesterone, that your ovaries are not producing, and that you are lacking, because of the lack of ovulatory cycles. When you decide to become pregnant, this has to be substituted with ovulation inducing fertility drugs. PCOD is a clinical diagnosis, and although we do hormone testing to check the thyroid, pituitary and other hormones, it is not a diagnosis made by these lab tests. From your description of your symptoms, you probably suffer from it. If you do further internet searching, you will come upon a description of patients that have this disorder, that you do not fit. However, keep in mind that there are variations on this theme and even normal appearing females can have a milder form of the disorder. Not all patients are hairy and obese :).

In terms of your future pregnancy, bravo for getting through your teen years without having had a sexual experience. When you do contemplate getting pregnant, I do not see any reason that you would be unable to become pregnant, except for your ovulatory disorder. Assuming that this is corrected with fertility drugs, you should have a pregnancy rate commensurate with your age group. I have had many PCOS patients that get pregnant with the proper protocol , though sometimes they need more than one try before they get their cycle exactly right.

I would advise you to seek another opinion with this information in hand, preferably a good OB/Gyn.

Sincerely,

Edward J. Ramirez, M.D.
Executive Medical Director
The Fertility and Gynecology Center
Monterey Bay IVF program
Monterey, California, U.S.A.

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